Comments on: Lying For Jesus–The Rocks Don’t http://www.celticbear.com/weblog/2007/02/20/lying-for-jesus-the-rocks-dont/ The daily...weekly...occasional journal by someone you don't know. Tue, 03 Nov 2009 18:08:20 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: CelticBear http://www.celticbear.com/weblog/2007/02/20/lying-for-jesus-the-rocks-dont/comment-page-1/#comment-5152 CelticBear Thu, 22 Feb 2007 21:33:26 +0000 http://www.celticbear.com/weblog/2007/02/20/lying-for-jesus-the-rocks-dont/#comment-5152 Exactly! Exactly!

]]> By: jennifer http://www.celticbear.com/weblog/2007/02/20/lying-for-jesus-the-rocks-dont/comment-page-1/#comment-5150 jennifer Thu, 22 Feb 2007 20:32:40 +0000 http://www.celticbear.com/weblog/2007/02/20/lying-for-jesus-the-rocks-dont/#comment-5150 It would like if I set out to get a PhD in European History, but I don't believe the Holocaust happened. I write my thesis about the horrendous genocide of the Jews during World War II, and discuss it in detail with the oral exam panel. I'm awarded the PhD, then begin teaching a university course called The Hoax of the Holocaust. It would like if I set out to get a PhD in European History, but I don’t believe the Holocaust happened. I write my thesis about the horrendous genocide of the Jews during World War II, and discuss it in detail with the oral exam panel. I’m awarded the PhD, then begin teaching a university course called The Hoax of the Holocaust.

]]> By: CelticBear http://www.celticbear.com/weblog/2007/02/20/lying-for-jesus-the-rocks-dont/comment-page-1/#comment-5130 CelticBear Wed, 21 Feb 2007 22:01:05 +0000 http://www.celticbear.com/weblog/2007/02/20/lying-for-jesus-the-rocks-dont/#comment-5130 That snippet... OMG! I mean, I'm dumbstruck; gobsmacked. I guess I missed that part when I read that site or I'd have quoted it. How can a person call himself a "scientist" and completely misunderstand the very nature of the science behind medicine is the exact same method and and foundation behind anthropology?! They're not two different things! If you can't "believe" the science behind anthropology, you CAN'T believe medical science because of the same methodology! God! This is selective reasoning at its greatest! Cognitive dissonance, rationalization to defend an ideology at its worst! That snippet… OMG! I mean, I’m dumbstruck; gobsmacked. I guess I missed that part when I read that site or I’d have quoted it.
How can a person call himself a “scientist” and completely misunderstand the very nature of the science behind medicine is the exact same method and and foundation behind anthropology?! They’re not two different things!
If you can’t “believe” the science behind anthropology, you CAN’T believe medical science because of the same methodology!
God! This is selective reasoning at its greatest! Cognitive dissonance, rationalization to defend an ideology at its worst!

]]> By: CelticBear http://www.celticbear.com/weblog/2007/02/20/lying-for-jesus-the-rocks-dont/comment-page-1/#comment-5129 CelticBear Wed, 21 Feb 2007 21:19:12 +0000 http://www.celticbear.com/weblog/2007/02/20/lying-for-jesus-the-rocks-dont/#comment-5129 It's the same issue with Discovery Institutes's bit-- er, lackey Michael Behe. A "working" biochemist who is the posterboy for Irreducible Complexity. As Phil Plait later explains in today's < href="http://www.badastronomy.com/bablog/2007/02/20/religion-and-phds/">Religion and PhDs, the student has to go through a very rigorous defense of their thesis in order to get the degree--so if the panel didn't know his disdain and lack of acceptance of the very science he supposedly used to create his thesis, he HAD to have lied and deceived and utterly misrepresent his understanding of science in order to fool the panel. It’s the same issue with Discovery Institutes’s bit– er, lackey Michael Behe. A “working” biochemist who is the posterboy for Irreducible Complexity.

As Phil Plait later explains in today’s < href="http://www.badastronomy.com/bablog/2007/02/20/religion-and-phds/">Religion and PhDs, the student has to go through a very rigorous defense of their thesis in order to get the degree–so if the panel didn’t know his disdain and lack of acceptance of the very science he supposedly used to create his thesis, he HAD to have lied and deceived and utterly misrepresent his understanding of science in order to fool the panel.

]]> By: jennifer http://www.celticbear.com/weblog/2007/02/20/lying-for-jesus-the-rocks-dont/comment-page-1/#comment-5128 jennifer Wed, 21 Feb 2007 21:15:19 +0000 http://www.celticbear.com/weblog/2007/02/20/lying-for-jesus-the-rocks-dont/#comment-5128 Just read the post linked to at Uncommon Descent, and found this comment very enlightening: <em>"I understand the requirement to know consensus science but when it comes to anthropology, paleontology, or evolutionary biology there’s no practical need to believe the science. A doctor needs to know AND believe that medicines work otherwise people can be physically harmed. Engineers need to know AND believe how materials behave otherwise money and lives are lost. But what happens if an anthropologist knows something but believes otherwise and is wrong? Nothing. Absolutely nothing. No harm is done."</em> Just read the post linked to at Uncommon Descent, and found this comment very enlightening:

“I understand the requirement to know consensus science but when it comes to anthropology, paleontology, or evolutionary biology there’s no practical need to believe the science. A doctor needs to know AND believe that medicines work otherwise people can be physically harmed. Engineers need to know AND believe how materials behave otherwise money and lives are lost. But what happens if an anthropologist knows something but believes otherwise and is wrong? Nothing. Absolutely nothing. No harm is done.”

]]> By: jennifer http://www.celticbear.com/weblog/2007/02/20/lying-for-jesus-the-rocks-dont/comment-page-1/#comment-5126 jennifer Wed, 21 Feb 2007 21:10:19 +0000 http://www.celticbear.com/weblog/2007/02/20/lying-for-jesus-the-rocks-dont/#comment-5126 Oh my gosh, that is so wrong. I imagine throngs of Liberty students going around gloating that <em>of course</em> the Bible’s version is right! Dr. Ross said so, and he’s a PhD!!! The school cannot be faulted for awarding Mr. Ross the degree when he obviously committed deception. Mr. Ross should be held accountable for the deception. Oh my gosh, that is so wrong. I imagine throngs of Liberty students going around gloating that of course the Bible’s version is right! Dr. Ross said so, and he’s a PhD!!!

The school cannot be faulted for awarding Mr. Ross the degree when he obviously committed deception. Mr. Ross should be held accountable for the deception.

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