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Suffering God

Posted by CelticBear on March 5th, 2007

DebunkingChristianity has a post that reviews a recent debate regarding what the existence of suffering in the world means regarding the existence of (the Judeo-Christian idea of) god:
Weisberger Evaluates the Arguments in the Loftus-Wood Debate

[snippet:] The point Wood wants to make is that the claim about the abundance of evil outweighing the good needs substantiation in order for the argument from evil to succeed. But this is a factual issue that must rely on some type of quantification, both in the amount and quality of suffering versus incidents of pleasure in the world. And who is willing to make the case that the joy of an American child receiving a Playstation 3 for Christmas outweighs the excruciating pain a North Korean child experiences while suffering from starvation?

Ah, I’m not going to comment on it. It’s just a good read.

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  • Too true.
  • Indeed!

    In fact, just this last weekend I heard a minister quote from the NT, Jesus saying anything you want, ask in prayer and you shall have it.
    Of course, he qualified it by saying it should not be for selfish things like cars and money...but ignoring the fact that Jesus never qualified the statement, is praying for the return of a limb selfish? If not for one's self, for a child? For a stranger?

    It's interesting that the only things prayer seems to cure, are conditions that are capable of receding or going into remission or can be cured through medicine or natural measures. Never ever ever anything permanent like amputations, disfiguring skin conditions (e.g. horrible burn wounds,) massive mental development conditions, cerebral palsy, etc.

    Evidently prayers for curing remissionable(sp) cancer is not selfish and god feels compelled to heal now and then, but a child's arm or a spouse's 3rd degree burns are selfish and those people are just S.O.L. Guess it's better to be faithful and have cancer than to have something more visible and permanent.
  • I thought so too. I still think the "amputee test" is the best at quantifying the issue. An entire segment of the population, not one single solitary case of regeneration. Regardless of faith, regardless of prayer, regardless of anything. Sums it up for me.
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